Former congressman Trey Gowdy told Fox News’ Martha MacCallum on Friday that he doesn’t expect any indictments to come out of John Durham’s investigation into the origins of the Trump–Russia collusion probe, the Washington Examiner reports.
Much of Durham’s probe has focused on the FBI and whether it had an actual basis for launching its far-reaching and controversial investigation in 2016.
Attorney General William Barr recently called the investigation into President Donald Trump and some of his associates “one of the greatest travesties in American history,” and while many people took that statement as an indication that indictments were imminent, according to The Hill, Gowdy sees things differently. He told MacCallum:
We have got to not only associate accountability with prosecutions. I don’t think it — I think being a terrible FBI agent, and treating people unfairly, maybe it ought to be a crime, but I don’t think it is a crime.
Gowdy urges noncooperation
Instead, Gowdy thinks that Durham’s findings may change the way the FBI is viewed by Americans, and that citizen cooperation with agency requests may no longer be a given if its agents are widely perceived as being unfair or corrupt in their investigatory methods.
“The takeaway is, the next time the FBI says, ‘Hey we’d like to talk,’ tell them no,” Gowdy said. “Say, ‘When you clean up your act, when you quit trying to get people fired and see what you can get away with, we will start treating you like a dispassionate law enforcement agency, but until then, no thanks, we’re done talking with you.'”
Neither Barr nor Durham has revealed anything about when their probe will be complete or when they will share partial or complete findings with the public. Barr recently told radio host Hugh Hewitt that he was “very troubled” by what Durham’s investigation is turning up, but only said that information would be shared “as soon as we feel we have something that we are confident in to tell the people about,” the Examiner reported.
It has already been shown in a recent report from Inspector General Michael Horowitz that the FBI abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant process repeatedly, and the Department of Justice recently released notes from that investigation indicating that the FBI used a Russia investigation as a pretext to try to get former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to lie to its investigators.
When Flynn would not lie, they pressured him into a guilty plea anyway by threatening to indict his son. Flynn has long sought to withdraw his guilty plea after prosecutors reneged on a deal to spare him jail time, and the new information may finally get his case tossed out or at least justify a pardon from Trump.
Indictments still possible
Many conservatives are still holding out hope that Durham’s investigation will indeed produce indictments, which they feel will be the only way to obtain justice for the abuses that have been perpetrated by rogue actors within the federal government.
According to the Washington Examiner, Sean Hannity said on his Fox News show Wednesday that sources tell him “we’re very close now” to seeing justice against the so-called “Deep State.”
The comment came after Hannity spoke to President Trump on the phone and was, according to the Fox News personality, supported by observations that Durham has recently hired additional staff, the Examiner reported.
Durham, for his part, does not appear to be operating out of political or ideological motivation, but many of the president’s supporters are certainly hoping that his findings will emerge well ahead of the November election so that voters can be reminded of the corrupt lengths to which the Deep State went to undermine Trump, both before and after he won the White House.