Michelle Obama reveals that she and Barack look to Bruce Springsteen and his wife for marriage guidance
It has been rumored for months that former President and first lady Barack and Michelle Obama are on the verge of a divorce after decades of marriage, and those rumors have not been explicitly confirmed or denied by either party.
There may be some truth to the speculation about marital troubles for the Obamas, as Michelle revealed this week that they have turned to liberal rock icon Bruce Springsteen and his wife for guidance as "couple mentors," according to The Hill.
Notably, Springsteen and his wife, Patti Scialfa, just recently celebrated their 34th anniversary as a married couple, which suggests that they know a thing or two about keeping a long-term relationship going.
The Obamas' marriage counselors
On Wednesday, Michelle Obama released the latest episode of her "IMO" podcast, which featured a one-on-one conversation with Bruce Springsteen, who, along with Scialfa, has long been close friends with the Obamas.
"I marvel at you and Patti and the work that you all have done," Obama said, according to USA Today. "You and Patti have been couple mentors for me and Barack for quite some time."
Springsteen appeared to be a bit taken aback by that revelation and replied, "Whoa, alright."
The former first lady continued that she and Barack have been "watching you guys do the work, getting advice on how to keep those lines of communication open, and further heralded the rock star and his wife as "two powerful people" who were "powerhouses in (their) own right and merging those lives together."
USA Today further noted that, just days earlier, Springsteen and Scialfa had marked 34 years of marriage together, with Scialfa highlighting the occasion with a celebratory social media post.
If there were any marital problems, "everybody would know about it"
While neither Barack nor Michelle Obama has come out to directly denounce the rumors of a potential impending divorce, The Hill observed that the former first lady did seem to downplay that possibility during an appearance last month on the "Diary of a CEO" podcast.
"If I were having problems with my husband, everybody would know about it," Obama quipped before sharing some of the frustrations she'd felt with her husband while living for eight years under the constraints and public scrutiny of the White House -- though quitting the relationship was never really an option for them.
"The beauty of my husband and our partnership is that neither one of us was ever really, ever going to quit at it, because that’s not who we are. And I know that about him. He knows that about me," she added. "I talk about these things because I think that people give up too quickly on marriage."
What started the divorce rumors?
The Obama divorce rumors took flight earlier this year when Michelle declined to attend two major events that she was expected to be at -- the state funeral of former President Jimmy Carter and President Donald Trump's second inauguration -- which prompted realization for many that the Obamas had rarely been seen together publicly in the months before and after those events.
Michelle previously explained in April that her noticeable absences were the result of her personal choice to focus on herself and were not an indication of any sort of marital troubles with Barack, according to USA Today.